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Software stocks have plummeted as the market prices in existential threats from AI capabilities and the rise of "vibe coding". In this episode, Deiya Pernas of Pernas Research explains why he believes the market is entirely misjudging the resilience of smaller SaaS companies. He argues that real-world integrations, enterprise-grade security, and privileged API access create powerful moats that simple code generation cannot easily replace. Pernas also reveals a previously multi-billion-dollar enterprise company that he sees 100% upside in over the next 12 months. Tune in to discover how to navigate the current "SaaS apocalypse" and identify mispriced opportunities in the market.

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Timestamps:

00:00 SaaS Apocalypse Setup

00:43 Pernas Research Offer

02:02 Software’s Second Leg Down

04:21 What Really Disrupts

07:23 Spotting Real Pivots

08:58 Valuations Hit 3x EV/Sales

11:27 When Sentiment Flips

14:03 Real World SaaS Focus

15:32 Vibe Coding Reality Check

17:52 Research Tools and Hiring

19:09 Pernas Research Offer

22:57 Sprout Social Pitch

25:37 Moat via API Access

28:12 Competition and TAM

32:16 Sprout Growth Outlook Ahead

33:49 Stock Comp Debate

36:57 3 More Bullish Stocks

38:33 Xometry Marketplace Explained

44:57 Xometry Scaling and Profit Path

46:04 Remitly vs. Wise

49:11 Migration Theme and Risks

52:29 Policy Shock and Risk Mindset

55:22 Portfolio Volatility Playbook

59:11 Conclusion