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Clay: Justice DeSantis?

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton react to Tax Day frustrations and government spending waste, using New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s proposal for a taxpayer-funded grocery store as a case study in what they argue are the failures of socialism, government inefficiency, and price controls. The hosts explain grocery store profit margins, competition, and loss leaders to argue that a government-run grocery store in New York City would likely become a costly failure and a “slow-motion train wreck” for taxpayers.

They also speculate about a possible upcoming Supreme Court vacancy. Clay and Buck discuss reporting and prediction market data suggesting Justice Samuel Alito—or potentially Justice Clarence Thomas—could voluntarily retire while President Donald Trump and Republicans control the Senate. They analyze the strategic timing of such a move, debate whether post–Roe v. Wade America would calm Supreme Court confirmation battles and argue that Democrats will continue to politicize judicial nominations over issues like abortion, birthright citizenship, and transgender rights. The hosts also discuss the likelihood of personal attacks on any conservative judicial nominee, referencing the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation fight as a warning.

The conversation then turns to potential Supreme Court nominees, with Clay Travis making a high-profile case for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis as a long-term, intellectually serious nominee who could serve for decades. Mike Lee is also mentioned, and both hosts debate the merits of appointing political figures versus Federalist Society–backed judges. The discussion frames Supreme Court appointments as one of the most lasting legacies of a presidency.

FBI Director Kash Patel

An interview with FBI Director Kash Patel, who outlines the Trump administration’s nationwide crime crackdown. Patel cites dramatic drops in violent crime, including homicide reductions of 40–60% in cities such as Washington, D.C., and Memphis, crediting federal-state task force cooperation, aggressive gang prosecutions, and strong support for law enforcement. He explains how FBI agents work alongside local police, state prosecutors, and the Department of Justice to dismantle gang networks, combat fentanyl trafficking, and lower overdose deaths nationwide.

Patel also addresses large-scale government fraud investigations, confirming that Medicare, Medicaid, and other public-benefit fraud schemes are a top FBI priority. He details major busts in Minnesota and California involving hundreds of millions of dollars and emphasizes that the bureau is aggressively targeting those who steal taxpayer funds. The discussion ties fraud enforcement to broader concerns about fairness on Tax Day and accountability within government.

Tax Day: Money Not Well Spent

Clay presents federal income tax statistics to argue that the U.S. tax burden is already heavily concentrated on high earners, noting that roughly half of Americans pay no federal income taxes while the top 1%, 10%, and 25% cover the vast majority of total revenue. He expresses frustration with government spending inefficiency and wasted taxpayer dollars, tying the issue to broader debates about fairness, accountability, and economic incentives.

Clay and Buck sharply criticize New York City’s high taxes, expanding government budgets, and proposals to raise taxes further on affluent residents, arguing these policies are accelerating population and capital flight to states like Florida and Texas. They return repeatedly to mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s proposal for a city-subsidized grocery store, portraying it as a textbook socialist experiment destined to fail. The hosts break down grocery store economics, emphasizing razor-thin profit margins, high logistical costs in New York City, and the necessity of scale—concluding that a government-