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Macky Outlaw and Jus continue their discussion on the use of force continuum — the step-by-step levels of response that law enforcement and military personnel are trained to follow, from presence and verbal commands all the way to deadly force as a last resort.

Drawing from their Marine Corps experience, they talk about how this structured approach keeps situations from escalating unnecessarily and protects everyone involved. They address heated online debates where many have claimed that an unarmed woman climbing through a broken window during the January 6 events at the Capitol should have been shot.

The guys examine the specifics of that incident and dive into questions about whether the Capitol Police officer followed standard operating procedures. They discuss whether lower levels of the use of force continuum — such as clear verbal warnings and less-lethal options — were properly considered before deadly force was used.

They keep the conversation grounded in training principles, accountability, and consistency in how force is applied, regardless of the political moment. No cheering for any side — just straightforward talk about rules, reality, and what the evidence shows in high-pressure situations.

This episode is for anyone interested in law enforcement standards, military discipline, and honest examination of controversial cases.

Tune in for a measured look at a topic that still divides people years later.

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