Episode Details

In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Collin Martin discuss recent market volatility, highlighting a sharp equity rally following news of a temporary ceasefire abroad. Liz Ann cautions that the dramatic, short‑term swings across asset classes reflect an increasingly “casino‑like” mentality in markets, where trading and speculation often blur with long‑term investing. 

Turning to fixed income, Collin reviews heightened volatility in Treasury yields and shifting expectations for Federal Reserve policy. While markets have begun to price in the possibility of a rate cut later this year, Collin notes that Schwab’s outlook remains largely unchanged: The Fed is likely to stay on hold for some time, and long‑term Treasury yields may remain in a relatively stable range. He underscores that for long‑term investors, modest daily moves in yields should not drive portfolio decisions, reinforcing the role bonds play as part of a broader investment strategy rather than a tactical trade.

Then, Liz Ann is joined by Nela Richardson, chief economist at ADP, who offers a nuanced view of the U.S. labor market using high‑frequency payroll data. Richardson describes today’s labor market as solid but lacking dynamism, with job growth highly concentrated in health care due to aging demographics. She also explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping work—not by eliminating entire jobs, but by transforming individual tasks—often augmenting higher‑skill roles while automating simpler ones. 

Finally, Collin and Liz Ann discuss which key economic data to watch in the coming weeks.

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