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I sat down with Constantin Kogan last week after we randomly met in Salt Lake City. We both live near New York. Sometimes the universe has a sense of humor.

Konstantin is the founder of Holistic Capital, a multi strategy investment firm focused on digital assets. He also runs a podcast called Holistic Investments. Over 100 episodes. More than 600,000 followers across platforms. Not bad for something he started during COVID while stuck at home.

But the interesting part of his story is not crypto. It is not Bitcoin in 2012. It is not Ethereum in 2016. It is not being early to hedge funds or registering with the SEC.

It is this: social capital is capital.

During COVID he found himself in a tough place. Like most of us. No travel. No meetings. No momentum. He asked a simple question. What can I do that I actually enjoy? His answer was long conversations. Honest conversations. The kind you have in a kitchen at midnight over wine.

So he started a podcast.

No monetization plan. No big strategy. Just curiosity and discipline. For five years he made nothing from it. Most podcasters quit before episode thirty. He kept going past one hundred.

Why?

Because he was not optimizing for money. He was optimizing for relationships and learning.

That changes everything.

We talked about failure. I asked him about bad trades. Crypto winters. Market crashes. He surprised me. The real failures were not financial. They were relational.

Picking the wrong partners.

He described business like a marriage. You can survive small disagreements. But when a real crisis hits, that is when character shows up. Do you share a vision. Do you share values. When it gets ugly, does your partner protect the mission or protect their ego.

You cannot really test that in advance. There is no checklist. No personality quiz that guarantees success. At some point you rely on judgment and instinct. And you accept risk.

That is uncomfortable. But it is honest.

We also talked about investing. Early in his career he focused on technology and timing. Now he looks at people first. Ideas are abundant. Execution is rare. Motivation varies wildly. Some founders want status. Some want money. Some want to prove themselves. Some want to change the world.

Only one of those types will survive when things get hard.

If you are building something, remember this. Investors are not just evaluating your deck. They are evaluating your stamina. Your alignment with your team. Your ability to handle conflict without blowing up the room.

And if you are thinking about starting a podcast or some other media project, understand what you are signing up for. It is a business. It consumes time. It demands consistency. It does not pay right away. Maybe not for years.

But it builds something else. Reputation. Network. Intellectual capital. A record of your thinking.

That can compound.

Konstantin does not even call himself a VC anymore. He trades liquid markets now. Algorithmic strategies. Volatility. But the podcast still runs. The network still grows. Yesterday he met the co founder of Venmo and invited him on the show on the spot.

That is how opportunity works. Quiet compounding. Relationship by relationship.

You cannot fake that. You have to show up. You have to publish. You have to keep going when the numbers are small and the monetization is zero.

There is a lesson here.

Build things that create optionality. Build things that connect you to other capable people. Build things that make you better at thinking and listening.

Money follows. Sometimes slowly. Sometimes indirectly. But it follows.

In the meantime, protect your partnerships. Choose carefully. Align early. Agree on how you