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I talked to Bobby Mascia this week on Keep Going, and what struck me was how different his story is from the usual startup script. A lot of founders like to talk about building from nothing, but Bobby’s problem was almost the reverse. He had something waiting for him, a family business, a clear role, a life that had already been sketched out by other people, and he still had to figure out whether staying in that world was loyalty or surrender.

Mascia came out of Wall Street and landed in the one place he never wanted to be, his family’s Dunkin’ Donuts and Baskin-Robbins business in New Jersey. After 9/11 and a series of health problems in his family, he stepped in because his parents needed help and because, in his words, family came first. Over nine years they grew the business from 20 locations to 40, which sounds like success until you look at the cost. He was underpaid, frustrated, and stuck inside a structure that ran on old rules, unclear expectations, and the kind of family tension that never stays in the office.

That is really the center of his story. Family businesses are rarely just businesses. They are full of old slights, private assumptions, and power struggles that started long before anyone talked about margins or strategy. Mascia said the biggest failures in his own experience were communication and transparency. Everybody had expectations, but nobody actually said them out loud. He assumed he would eventually take over. His father assumed he would hand over more responsibility when the time felt right. Other relatives had their own ideas. None of that added up to a plan.

What I liked about Bobby’s take is that he does not dress this up as some clean business lesson. He talks about resentment, confusion, and the weird emotional math of trying to be a son, an operator, and a future owner at the same time. He gave a good example during the interview about how family members in business often switch roles in the middle of an argument without even noticing it. One minute you are talking as CEO and CMO, then suddenly you are talking as siblings, then as equal owners, then as two people reliving something from twenty years ago. Once that happens, the actual issue is gone. You are no longer solving a business problem. You are fighting over identity.

That part felt useful well beyond family business. A lot of people build companies with friends, spouses, or long-time collaborators, and the same confusion creeps in. If you do not know what role each person is playing in a given conversation, then every disagreement becomes personal. Mascia’s answer is simple enough to sound obvious, but most people never do it. Name the role. Name the conversation. Stay inside it. If you need to have a different conversation, have it later.

The other part of his story that stayed with me was what happened when he finally left. He started over in finance, built Green Ridge Wealth Planning from scratch, and spent a year barely speaking to his father. That split sounds brutal, and it was, but it also gave him the space to figure out who he was without the family machine around him. He did not leave with a pile of money. He left with a wife who told him he looked miserable and needed to do something that felt like his own life. That may have been the smartest advice in the whole interview.

There is a common lie in family business, and probably in life in general, that staying is always the noble move. Sometimes staying is just fear with a respectable face. Sometimes leaving is the only honest act left. That does not mean leaving is clean or painless, and it certainly does not mean everyone will thank you for it. In Mascia’s case, success only changed the conversation later, once his father could see that walking away was not a tantrum or a mistake. It was a real choice.

We also talked about AI, which could have turned into the usual stale deba