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Back to EpisodesChasing Alpha: SPIVA 2025, Active vs Passive Investing, and Why Most Managers Underperform
Description
In this episode of the Global Thinking Podcast, host Rob Duncan sits down with Dr. Joe Nelesen from S&P Dow Jones Indices to break down the SPIVA Canada 2025 report and what it reveals about active vs passive investing.
The data is clear. Most active managers underperform their benchmarks — not just in 2025, but over longer time horizons. This raises a critical question for investors and advisors alike. Is it still worth chasing alpha?
Rob and Joe explore:
- Why active managers consistently struggle to beat the market
- The role of fees, market efficiency, and survivorship bias
- Where active investing may still have an edge
- The continued rise of ETFs and index investing
- How AI, tokenization, and evolving market structure could shape the future
Whether you are a portfolio manager, financial advisor, or individual investor, this episode provides a data-driven look at one of the most important debates in investing today.
If you are building portfolios in today's market, understanding the trade-offs between active and passive investing has never been more important.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Global Thinking Podcast
02:31 Understanding the SPIVA Report Card
04:35 Performance of Active Managers in 2025
09:00 Factors Leading to Underperformance
13:11 The Role of Fees and Market Dynamics
17:40 Survivorship Bias in Active Management
19:44 The Future of Active Management
24:34 Active vs. Passive Investment Strategies
28:56 The Impact of Fund Selection
29:21 The Rise of Index Investing
30:43 Passive vs Active Investing Dynamics
32:23 Tokenization and Market Evolution
33:18 Future of Market Hours
35:07 The Future of Active vs Index Investing
37:58 AI's Role in Investment Strategies
41:54 Insights on Indices and Reading Recommendations
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