Episode Details

Before the positive test. Before the announcement. Before anyone around you knows. There's a chapter of matrescence that almost nobody talks about - and it might be the most isolating one of all.

Episode two goes back to the beginning. The deliberation of whether to have a child at all. The silence around trying. The questions you carry quietly - often alone, often whilst sitting in a meeting pretending everything is fine.

Bianca shares her own journey - from burying the thought of motherhood throughout her twenties, to coming off the pill after fifteen years, to confronting what she actually wanted.

Rose brings the research: why the data on fertility, careers, and workplace support is far bleaker than most employers realise - and why one in five people undergoing fertility treatment leave their jobs because nobody asks.

Together, we're asking why one of the most universal human experiences is still something most women feel they have to hide from their employers, their colleagues, and sometimes even themselves. And we're retiring a word that's never done this chapter justice.