Episode Details

On this episode of Cacao Conversations, Dorice shares a deeply personal and profound experience that unfolded on Holy Saturday—one that moved beyond the ordinary and into something sacred, raw, and universal. 

Standing in her kitchen beside an image of the Virgin Mary, she closed her eyes… and found herself inside a living vision of the Pietà. She was holding Jesus. His body, lifeless, in her arms. And then, in an instant, the vision shifted. She was holding her own son… as he died in her arms. 

Back and forth, the images moved. Jesus. Her son. Jesus. Her son.

What arose was more than personal grief. 
It was the grief of a mother. 
Mary’s grief. 
The grief carried by every mother who has ever lost a child. 

And then something even greater came through. Dorice felt the presence of the Divine Mother—not only as Mary, but as Isis, wings extended, holding all suffering. 

And the message came—not in words, but in knowing: “Hold the grief. Hold the compassion. This is your offering to the world.” 

This experience was not just about her. It was about humanity. 

The Divine Mother grieves. 
She grieves the loss of children. 
She grieves the wounding of the masculine. 
She grieves the separation within the human soul. 

And she is calling some of us to hold that grief consciously… to alchemize it into compassion… and to serve those who are suffering. 

Dorice also opens the door to a deeper, often hidden perspective. Drawing on the work of Marguerite Mary Rigoglioso, she explores the idea that Mary may not have been a passive figure—but a highly trained priestess of divine conception. A woman initiated into ancient lineages… who understood how to bring forth extraordinary beings through sacred union with the Divine. A wisdom that echoes across cultures. A truth that has been buried. Silenced. Forgotten. 

So we ask: 

Is the Divine Feminine rising again? 
Is it time to remember who Mary truly was? 
And what is being asked of us now? 

If you have ever touched grief… If you have felt something greater moving through your life… If you sense that humanity is being called into deeper compassion… This conversation will meet you there. 

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Julietta Wenzel
 Founder of Body & Soul Ministries
 Instagram: @bodyandsoulministries

Dorice Ross
 Elder of Body & Soul Ministries
 Instagram: @rossdorice

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