Episode Details

Bozoma Saint John is a glass-ceiling-shattering force of nature — the marketing powerhouse behind the world’s biggest brands, and now a breakout star of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills who is rewriting what it means to be seen on reality TV. 

In this powerful conversation with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, Boz is joined by her plus one — her mother, Mama Aba, a two-time cancer survivor and the woman who gave her the foundation to walk into any room and refuse to be anything less than herself. Together, they explore how confidence, vulnerability, and a mother's unshakeable pride can shape a life of extraordinary impact. 

They reveal how: 

• True confidence isn't arrogance; it's having the knowledge of your own excellence 

• Grief can teach you urgency, and urgency is how you truly start living 

• Vulnerability isn't weakness  

• Showing up unapologetically changes the stories the world gets to tell 

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