Episode Details

"I want Nostr to be the perfect thing just for me."

Justin & Gigi drive to the airport. Recorded October 2025.

Projects & tech mentioned:

• Blitz (Rust HTML/CSS renderer)
• QuickJS (lightweight JavaScript engine)
• Dioxus (Rust UI framework)
• Iroh (peer-to-peer networking)
• MOQ (Media Over QUIC)
• White Noise (MLS-based private messaging on Nostr)
• Ladybird (independent browser by Andreas Kling)
• VRChat

In this dialogue:

• Driving to the airport
• "Don't say anything that could be used against you"
• The low quality of this podcast focuses the mind of the listener
• You need proper headphones
• Walking focuses you, and stops you after 90 minutes
• Justin's adoption curve: hater first, builder later
• "I'm the ascending left curve"
• Bitcoin hating, Lightning hating, Nostr hating
• Audio calling with npubs: Nostr as signaling & identity layer
• First version: Iroh for peer-to-peer, Nostr for lookup
• Calling Paul Miller's npub from a CLI
• innpub: a 2D pixel art level with rooms you can hang out in
• The killer feature of positional audio
• VRChat Bitcoin meetups during COVID, thanks to Udi
• Twitter Spaces, Clubhouse, and why one big room encourages attention seeking
• Positional audio lets you hide in a corner
• WebRTC is Google Meet shipped as a "web standard"
• Safari and Firefox just shipp