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Today I’m doing something I said I’d never do… inviting my partner on the podcast!

In this Clubhouse-exclusive episode, my spouse JJ Lang joins me for an unexpected conversation about AI.

JJ is a high-level chess player and works for US Chess. They’re here to talk about how algorithms and AI engines have been a big part of the chess world for decades — and also why JJ doesn’t use Generative AI or LLMs in their work today.

I wanted to share this conversation, because:

1. It’s fun to give you a cute behind-the-scenes in to my personal life!
2. It’s good to talk to someone being told to use AI at their job alongside our conversations centering self-employment.
3. The origin of contemporary AI (at least at Deep Mind) was building chess engines. So JJ can help us understand algorithms vs AI and what computers are actually “doing” when they answer a question.

This is a nerdy, sweet conversation, and I hope you enjoy it. To hear the whole thing, join the Clubhouse at offthegrid.fun/clubhouse

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