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July 16, 1997: The World of Witchcraft - Dr. Evelyn Paglini
Published 2 years, 4 months ago
Description
Art Bell introduces Dr. Evelyn Paglini, a parapsychologist, doctor of divinity, and lifelong practitioner of natural magic who was trained by her grandfather, a high-ranking magus, beginning at the age of four. Art warns listeners at the outset that the discussion will disturb some people and urges the easily offended to change the station. Dr. Paglini explains the vibrational properties of color, the mechanics of imitative and sympathetic magic using wax effigies and personal items, and the real power behind tools like candles, herbs, and essential oils.
Art shares personal stories about his wife, including her successful water witching using coat hangers to locate an underground water source on undeveloped land, and her instinctive reaction to a cursed doll that arrived in the mail, which she immediately buried in salt. Dr. Paglini confirms these as natural abilities rooted in sensitivity and vibration. She discusses familiars, shape-shifting traditions among Native Americans, and the karmic consequences of misusing magical power, which she says returns tenfold.
The conversation takes a serious turn when Art, without revealing details, asks whether magic can be used to take a life in cases of justified retaliation. Dr. Paglini affirms this is possible when true justification exists, describing it as setting up a mirror that returns the harm to its sender.
Art shares personal stories about his wife, including her successful water witching using coat hangers to locate an underground water source on undeveloped land, and her instinctive reaction to a cursed doll that arrived in the mail, which she immediately buried in salt. Dr. Paglini confirms these as natural abilities rooted in sensitivity and vibration. She discusses familiars, shape-shifting traditions among Native Americans, and the karmic consequences of misusing magical power, which she says returns tenfold.
The conversation takes a serious turn when Art, without revealing details, asks whether magic can be used to take a life in cases of justified retaliation. Dr. Paglini affirms this is possible when true justification exists, describing it as setting up a mirror that returns the harm to its sender.