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April 20, 1998: We Never Went to the Moon - Wayne Green
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Art Bell welcomes Wayne Green, veteran ham radio publisher and technology pioneer, for a wide-ranging conversation that begins with health controversies before veering into one of the most provocative claims in modern history. Wayne argues that the Apollo moon landings were faked, citing the absence of stars in lunar photographs, questions about dust behavior in a vacuum, concerns about radiation beyond the Van Allen belts, and the lack of sound delay in astronaut communications with Houston.
Art pushes back on each point, offering counterarguments about camera exposure limitations and kinetic energy in low gravity. A caller named Terry O'Grady then phones in claiming he transported 800 pounds of rocks from Antarctica aboard the USS Glacier, rocks he says were addressed to NASA. Art is visibly shaken by the implications, noting that if the moon landings were fabricated, every foundational belief about the American government would be called into question.
The conversation shifts dramatically when Wayne reveals his belief in reincarnation, past-life regression, and the idea that angels may be projections of our own consciousness operating outside linear time. The two also discuss the decline of ham radio, plant sentience experiments, and Wayne's proposals for education reform.
Art pushes back on each point, offering counterarguments about camera exposure limitations and kinetic energy in low gravity. A caller named Terry O'Grady then phones in claiming he transported 800 pounds of rocks from Antarctica aboard the USS Glacier, rocks he says were addressed to NASA. Art is visibly shaken by the implications, noting that if the moon landings were fabricated, every foundational belief about the American government would be called into question.
The conversation shifts dramatically when Wayne reveals his belief in reincarnation, past-life regression, and the idea that angels may be projections of our own consciousness operating outside linear time. The two also discuss the decline of ham radio, plant sentience experiments, and Wayne's proposals for education reform.