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We talk with Jonna Rae Bartges, an author, minister, Emmy-winning producer, and founder of the Practical Spirituality Institute, about supporting loved ones who are nearing death and easing fear around dying. 

Jonna Rae  shares the phrase “grief remembers the love that created it,” explains how humor can raise “frequency”  (and helped her survive a 1989 brain aneurysm), and describes her approach as a bridge between science and spirituality. 

Ms. Bartges references concepts like the unified field, Carl Jung’s collective unconscious, near-death experiences, and research suggesting consciousness continues. 

This episode includes practical guidance such as  normalizing death conversations, discussing proud memories, validating a person’s impact, and asking who they look forward to seeing “on the other side.”