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Inference engineering and the real-world deployment of LLMs, with Philip Kiely
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Episode: Inference engineering and the real-world deployment of LLMs, with Philip Kiely
Pub date: 2026-03-12
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) and Philip Kiely, early employee at Baseten, discuss the inference stack: the critical layer of software and hardware that sits between a model’s weights and a user’s prompt. They cover inference engineering, how intermediate layers are evolving over a technical stack that is changing every six months, and how sophisticated organizations are actually consuming LLMs beyond just writing their questions into chatbot apps.
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Links:
- Download Inference Engineering: https://www.baseten.com/inference-engineering/
- Philip's website: https://philipkiely.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(00:30) The AI deployment pipeline
(03:04) Evolution of abstraction layers in engineering
(05:14) Defining inference and model weights
(08:45) Architecture of langu