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This is our Week in Review of the Kouri Richins murder trial—and we're breaking down testimony that's raising more questions than answers.

Five days in, the prosecution's drug-chain theory is showing cracks. Carmen Lauber—the housekeeper who claims she bought fentanyl for Kouri four times—was using methamphetamine during the relevant period and received immunity from three jurisdictions before testifying. Her supplier Robert Crozier originally told detectives he sold fentanyl. On the stand, he said it was oxycodone and that he was "detoxing and out of it" when he gave his original statement.

Two key witnesses. Two different drugs. That's a problem the prosecution has to solve.

Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke joins us to assess what's happening in that courtroom. With 21 years at the Bureau including time running the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Dreeke built his career reading people under pressure. He examines Lauber's credibility wounds, Crozier's contradictions, and Kouri's sustained composure through five days of testimony. When behavioral evidence—the searches, the insurance positioning, the coded language—clashes with missing physical evidence, which matters more to a jury?

Defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down the most significant fact yet: four years after Eric died with fentanyl in his system, the state's own former Chief Medical Examiner still lists manner of death as "undetermined." Not homicide.

The prosecution played a recording of Kouri calling the medical examiner's office asking detailed questions about what killed Eric. Bob analyzes whether that's consciousness of guilt or exactly what a grieving widow would do. He also identifies the Seroquel found in Eric's system that neither side is focusing on—and what has to happen for the prosecution to make this case viable.

Over twenty witnesses. Still no proof of how fentanyl got into Eric or that Kouri administered it.

Kouri Richins is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

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