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Dr. Matt Barney is a true scientist practitioner and an entrepreneur in the field of measurement and analysis. His most recent tool, the TruMind.ai Leader and Coach Assessment, he feels supremely hopeful about, because it helps coaches help their clients see and note their progress, something that's otherwise hard to quantify and measure. 

"Reviews tell us that most coaching outcomes are measured by one metric alone: whether the executive liked the coach," he notes. "That's not enough. We need more ROI." 

In an interview from his Philippines base, we hear of Matt's love for inventing, coaching, and the hope he feels for the coaching industry and its 60,000+ ICF coaches with AI tools like his. At a time when clients need to see and hear the value of human coaching, we've a great incentive to try. 

You can find Matt Barney on LinkedIn and TruMind.ai here. 

You can find a video of our interview on YouTube here. 

Your show host, Debbi Gardiner McCullough, is a communications coach for Google PMs through Fortune 100 leaders, a former reporter for the Guardian, the Economist, and the FT of London. Book her for coaching, training or ICF mentoring here.   Join her active listening and communications workshops on Maven here and here, with a new Listen Like a Boss coming soon.