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Ep. 164: Holly Woodlawn, Andy Warhol, and Chosen Family: Jeff Copeland Tells the Story

Episode 161 Published 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Jeff arriving in LA with $1,200 and realizing… no one rents to you without credit or a job
“Hollywood was gritty, not glamorous”—the real vibe of the era
How Jeff first spotted Holly and was instantly captivated by her presence
The very pre-internet way he found her: calling 411 and getting her listed number
The bold dinner invite and the start of a friendship that became chosen family
Making art while broke: scripts, hustle, and the wild pivot from film idea to book reality
Working on Holly’s memoir Low Life and High Heels
Jeff’s honesty about the ugly questions people asked about Holly—and why it mattered
Holly’s resistance to labels and objectification, and how she navigated gender on her terms
Jeff’s TV career journey: PBS, Discovery, science docs, and climbing the ladder
The “pinch me” era: Gary Shandling, Carol Burnett, and iconic guest-star orbit moments
Returning to Missouri, caregiving, COVID, and the drive to finish a book after 20 drafts
Jeff’s takeaway: risk, resilience, and never living with the regret of not trying

Get the book: Love You Madly, Holly Woodlawn ✅ Signed copies available at https://feralhouse.com

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