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The defense in the Kouri Richins trial has 35 witnesses ready to testify. But after weeks of devastating cross-examination that exposed investigative failures, witness contradictions, and questions about whether this case was outcome-driven from the start—do they even need them all?

Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke welcome defense attorney Bob Motta back to Hidden Killers Live for analysis of where this trial stands. The defense hasn't presented their case yet, but they've already accomplished something significant: establishing that critical forensic tests were never performed, that the prosecution's key witness changed her story after receiving immunity, and that a detective told Carmen Lauber "the goal is to convict Kouri for aggravated murder."

Dr. Erik Christensen admitted under cross-examination that hair follicle testing could have determined whether Eric Richins was a long-term fentanyl user—and that those results would have factored into his manner-of-death determination. The test was never done. The copperware from the Moscow Mules was never tested. An empty hydrocodone bottle in Eric's nightstand was never analyzed.

The toxicology showed no oxycodone in Eric's system—only fentanyl. The defense hasn't denied Kouri sought pills; attorney Kathy Nester said in opening that Kouri obtained oxycodone at Eric's request for chronic pain. If Carmen provided oxycodone but Eric died of fentanyl, where did the fatal dose come from?

Robin Dreeke brings his FBI behavioral expertise to the discussion. Bob Motta breaks down whether reasonable doubt is already established or if the defense risks peaking too early. With 35 witnesses waiting and the prosecution still not finished, this trial could go in multiple directions.

What do Nester, Lewis, and Ramos need to accomplish when it's finally their turn?

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