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This week on Going Public, Ross Mandell sits down with Chris Ayoub and Nathan Apffel, the visionary minds behind the eye-opening docuseries The Religion Business. In this episode, they pull back the curtain on the nonprofit religious sector, exposing how institutional Christianity and other long-standing systems are colliding with modern society—and failing the people they were designed to serve. With backgrounds in military leadership, corporate M&A, and award-winning filmmaking, Ayoub and Apffel combine hard-hitting investigative journalism with actionable solutions.

Their docuseries doesn't just challenge the status quo—it proposes technology-driven reforms to hold powerful institutions accountable. Tune in for a conversation on faith, corruption, reform, and the future of nonprofit transparency. Whether you're interested in religious institutions, modern governance, systemic reform, or faith-based accountability, this is a must-listen.

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