Episode Details

Recorded at the Biblical Counseling Coalition Global Summit, Michael interviews New Zealanders Darryl Burling and Jason Winslade about advancing biblical counseling and missions in New Zealand. Darryl founded the New Zealand Biblical Counseling Association (NZBCA) in 2017 and says it is being rebuilt with new board members and a renewed, context-sensitive approach rather than importing an American system. Winslade a Christchurch pastor, describes developing biblical counseling in his church, launching New Zealand’s first biblical counseling center (Hope Counseling Center), and joining the NZBCA board to strengthen national reach across both islands. They explain NZBCA’s virtual structure, speaker/workshop requests, volunteer opportunities, and a national counseling request process that routes people to certified counselors or seasoned pastors. They announce two 2027 conferences: March in Christchurch with Jim Fain and September in Auckland with Stuart Scott, emphasizing equipping local churches to reclaim soul care and use counseling evangelistically.

00:00 Welcome and Setup
00:58 Meet Darrell and Jason
03:39 NZBCA Vision and Context
05:43 Nationwide Structure and Travel
07:24 Request Speakers and Workshops
09:09 Conferences and Guest Speakers
11:26 Volunteering and Church Support
13:14 Counseling Requests and Local Hubs
16:20 Why Counseling Belongs in Church
18:46 Final Thanks and Next Steps

Episode Mentions
NZBCA
Hope Counseling Center