Episode Details

Two cases that defy easy explanation. One expert who can illuminate what the rest of us can't grasp.

Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper has maintained complete silence for three weeks. No contact with investigators. No response to the family's desperate pleas. No ransom demand. Just nothing. What does that absence of communication reveal about who has her and what they want?

Kouri Richins allegedly chose to kill her husband rather than divorce him—poisoning Eric with fentanyl after allegedly making multiple attempts. But Eric reportedly knew something was wrong. He told people. He consulted lawyers. He took protective measures. And he stayed.

Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott provides comprehensive psychological analysis of both cases in this full-length interview. With over thirty years working with victims and perpetrators, Scott examines what behavioral evidence tells us.

On Guthrie: The psychology of kidnappers who don't communicate. Is the silence strategic? Reactive? Is the act itself the point? What does prolonged silence typically suggest about outcomes?

On Richins Part 1: Inside the mind of a partner who allegedly chooses murder. The internal logic that makes killing feel rational. The method of poisoning. The performance of grief that allegedly followed.

On Richins Part 2: The victim's psychology. What it's like to suspect your spouse might kill you. Why protective measures don't always mean leaving. What friends and family should recognize as warning signs.

This is expert analysis you won't hear anywhere else—three distinct psychological examinations in one comprehensive interview.

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