Episode Details

Jase and Al welcome John and Paula Godwin to reflect on the kind of community that shows up in the hardest moments from medical crises to marital collapse and everything in between. They revisit seasons of fear, loss, and uncertainty, including Paula’s HIV needle-stick scare and the painful surgeries that tested Jase and Missy’s resolve. The conversation builds to the powerful “even if” faith of Daniel 3 — trusting God not only when He delivers what we ask for, but even if He doesn’t.

In this episode: 1 John 2, verses 3–6; 1 John 3, verses 16–24; 1 John 4, verse 10; Daniel 3, verses 16–18; John 17

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome John & Paula Godwin

04:20 Mia’s Surgery & Showing Up in Crisis

09:40 Paula’s First Impression 

16:15 Marriage Collapse & Carrying Grace

24:30 Becoming Grandparents After Loss

30:50 Why Real Community Requires Commitment

37:40 Believe in Jesus & Love One Another

44:45 The “Even If” Faith of Daniel 3

52:30 Godwin’s Fishing Guide Life

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