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The Colin Gray trial could change parental liability law across America. Prosecutors charged second-degree murder—not manslaughter like the Crumbleys. He's facing 180 years. Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta joins us live to break down what's happening in Georgia and what it means going forward.

The facts are brutal. The FBI visited Colin Gray's home in May 2023 after his son made threats on Discord. Body cam footage shows Gray saying "God, I knew it" within minutes of the Apalachee High School shooting. He also said he'd been trying to get his son into counseling. Bob analyzes how those statements cut both ways—and which way a jury is likely to lean.

Here's the legal problem prosecutors face: Georgia has no safe storage law. A 14-year-old can legally possess a long gun there. Colin Gray didn't technically break any gun laws by giving his kid that AR-15. So how do you charge someone with murder when the underlying conduct was legal? Bob walks through the prosecution's theory and the defense's best counterargument.

The sentencing gap is staggering. The Crumbleys got 10-15 years for manslaughter in Michigan. Colin Gray faces 180 years in Georgia. That exposure changes everything about how this case gets tried.

Karen McDonald—the prosecutor who secured the Crumbley convictions—said her reaction to Colin Gray being charged was "rage." She said the Crumbley case was never meant to open the floodgates. Experts warn this could be applied disproportionately against families without resources. Bob addresses whether there's any limiting principle.

Join us live as we analyze whether the rules are changing in real time for parents across the country.

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