Episode Details

What does a trial lawyer — someone trained to win arguments — learn about love, emotional regulation, and parenting?

In this episode, Jefferson Fisher shares the courtroom lessons that completely changed how he sees conflict, persuasion, and connection.

We explore:

• Why winning an argument can cost you the relationship

• What people are really fighting for beneath the words

• How to stay calm when you’re triggered

• A simple breathing technique that builds instant composure

• The 3-step method to change someone’s mind

• How to model recovery for your children

• Why becoming a safe space matters more than being right

This conversation goes beyond communication tips. It’s about security, ego, humility, and choosing kindness.. especially when it’s hard.

If you’ve ever walked away from a conversation wishing you handled it differently, this episode will stay with you.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Introduction
• 00:01:07 Meet Jefferson Fisher: From Trial Lawyer to Communication Coach
• 00:03:14 The Cost of Winning an Argument
• 00:04:44 A Technique That Turns Timidness Into Calm Confidence
• 00:08:02 Jefferson’s Biggest Lessons From the Courtroom
• 00:11:22 3 Steps to Changing Someone’s Mind
• 00:14:47 Thinking Like a Lawyer in Everyday Conversations
• 00:17:39 Parenting With Humility: Modelling Recovery
• 00:19:29 Becoming a Safe Space for Your Children
• 00:22:24 Why Jefferson Fisher Allows His Children to Argue
• 00:26:21 What People Are Really Fighting For Beneath Arguments
• 00:29:37 How to Stay Grounded When Triggered
• 00:36:03 The Message Jefferson Fisher Hopes to Leave Behind

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