Episode Details

In this part two of a special champion spotlight series, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel sits down with two of Arizona’s 2025 Class Champions for an in-depth conversation about design, culture, and building programs that thrive.

Hamilton High School (Class 3A Champion) Directors Leo Werner and Jason Bullock share the creative process behind their cinematic production The Lost City, inspired by tales of El Dorado and featuring music from Jumanji and Holding Out for a Hero. From dramatic visual twists and storytelling through costume design to cultivating a championship culture that transcends classification, they offer practical insights on:

• Designing shows students truly buy into
• Balancing creativity with budget realities
• Building sustainable culture amid staff and roster changes
• Planning and revealing next season’s production
• Leading with partnership and shared vision

Campo Verde High School (Class 4A Champion) Director Matt Kozacek joins the show to discuss Tangled Fate, a dark and theatrical production that blended classical, jazz, and dramatic storytelling—including a jaw-dropping final moment audiences won’t forget. Matt dives into:

• Collaborating with composers and drill writers
• Teaching performance authenticity and character commitment
• Motivating students through positive culture and “bucket filling”
• Creating traditions like weekly “Game Ball” recognitions
• Growing a program with long-term vision and heart

Throughout the episode, you’ll hear powerful reminders that championships aren’t built on size alone—but on clarity of vision, consistency of culture, and students who are empowered to lead.

Whether you’re a director, staff member, student leader, or marching arts enthusiast, this episode is packed with inspiration, practical strategies, and celebration of excellence across Arizona.

Tune in and join the conversation shaping marching band education in the Copper State.