Episode Details

Is the traditional engineering backlog officially a thing of the past? Andrew and Ben explore the principles of outcome engineering and how continuous productivity is permanently changing how software gets built. They also examine a busy week of industry news, from Peter Steinberger joining OpenAI to the amusing and bewildering story of a hit piece written by an autonomous AI agent. Finally, the hosts break down the existential crises of Gemini 3 Pro inside a virtual village and why Meta product managers are rebranding themselves as AI builders.

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• OpenAI's acquisition of OpenClaw signals the beginning of the end of the ChatGPT era
• An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me
• Outcome Engineering
• The Drama and Dysfunction of Gemini 2.5 and 3 Pro
• Several Meta employees have started calling themselves 'AI builders'

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