Episode Details

In this episode of Based Camp, Malcolm and Simone revisit studies showing that men who report higher mating success (more consensual partners, perceived attractiveness) are also more likely to self-report coercive/forceful sexual behaviors — a bimodal pattern (high-success “Chads” and low-status desperate men). They argue this isn’t always genuine assault but often experienced men misreading “token resistance” in consensual kink/dominance play, or contextual factors where women don’t label or report it negatively.

The Collinses contrast this with Red Pill misconceptions: women don’t crave gruff, aggressive “dread game” misogynists but rather charismatic, self-assured, ruthless-pragmatic, “fey/vampire-like” pretty-boy types (e.g., host club hosts, David Bowie, Johnny Depp, Justin Bieber archetypes) who show intense interest, build women up, and display confidence without crude dominance. They also tie in benevolent sexism (protective/pedestal beliefs) appealing more than hostile sexism, prestige over brute dominance for long-term appeal, and dark triad traits as adaptive for short-term mating but maladaptive long-term.

They frame their investigation through a re-examination of their own early dating (Malcolm’s blunt/pragmatic “dread” approach, plans not to commit, pushing Simone’s career/life strategy), concluding that real attraction stems from aligned values, assertiveness, interest in her goals, and pragmatic effectiveness — not cruelty or performative misogyny. It ends casually with family interruptions and dinner plans.

Episode Transcript

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] you helped me understand that I might have been significantly more dark triad in the way I

treated you early in our relationship,

Simone Collins: 100% more. We’ve talked about this.

Malcolm Collins: Not on air. Oh

Simone Collins: yeah.

Malcolm Collins: I’m here like, guys, just be nice to girls. , Treat her with respect, you know, meanwhile, early in my relationship,

Simon.

But the point is, in the context, it sounds really bad when you go in context.

Simone Collins: Explaining you, you, you’re

Malcolm Collins: explain you’re

Simone Collins: a human manifestation of the research case study Malcolm.

Malcolm Collins: I was just explaining why li she comes to me. You gotta understand this guys.

So like what I did first date, I, I could it have been considered essay by progress?

Oh yeah, that’s true.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: And

Simone Collins: oh my god. Malcolm, what did you do?

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. Today we are gonna be [00:01:00] going over some studies that show that women are worse than I even knew in terms of the types of partners that they go for because I told you these this morning and you were shocked. Not only do feminist women prefer more misogynistic men will go into that study but in addition to that males.

Who admit to griping women are boast more popular and have more consensual sexual partners than men who do not. And so we will go over all of the studies around this, what this really means. And before I go too deep into this, what I will point out that we’re going to find with the gring behavior

Simone Collins: mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: It’s, this is more of a bimodal distribution. Oh. Which means that you see this sort of aggressive coercive sexuality in both men who are unusually successful, IE unusually popular unusually sexually successful. And you see it in men who are unusually dumb, unsuccessful see themselves as pathetic.

Right.

Simone Collins: That [00:02:00] makes logical sense. Yeah, I could totally see that.

Malcolm Collins: I mean, it makes perfect evolutionary sense too, right? Like

Simone Collins: also bad. Yes.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. The, the, well, because you’re at the top, yo