Episode Details

Mississippi State music history professor Dr. Ryan Ross joins Josh to talk about his journey—from thinking he could never support Trump, to voting for him in the last election, and now back to not being able to support him anymore.

They get into why they both voted for Trump in the first place, what made them feel like they had to, and the buyer's remorse that came after. They also talk about how a lot of traditional conservatives and independents feel the same way—like there's no real home left in either of the two major parties.  They have both become so terrible that neither one deserves their vote or support.

Ryan and Josh also discuss what it's like being a conservative professor in a very woke, liberal academic world. Ryan shares some of the struggles he's had just trying to teach music history in a straight forward historically accurate way.

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