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What happens when divine guidance moves through music, creativity, and the courage to trust your calling?

Join Julie Ryan and Broadway star Pamela Bob as they explore spiritual channeling, divine timing, singing as sacred expression, and how play and creativity reveal why we incarnate. In this heartfelt and inspiring episode, Pamela opens up about the sacred vulnerability of singing, why performing for an intimate room can feel more terrifying than a packed theater, and how music aligns with our unique energetic vibration. From the emotional force of shows like Ragtime to a childhood moment of divine recognition—“I think this is God”—this conversation dives deep into artistry as a spiritual calling.

Listeners will be captivated by Pamela’s jaw-dropping story of channeling June Carter Cash during a nightly, unscripted improvisation—an experience so powerful that Julie reveals June herself chose Pamela in the audition and guided her through every performance. Pamela also shares the brutal truth behind elite performing arts training, where she was repeatedly told she couldn’t sing, yet trusted her inner knowing enough to persevere when others were cut. That same guidance later led her from a lucid dream to creating the award-winning Livin’ On a Prairie, as the right people and opportunities appeared at exactly the right time.

This episode is ultimately a love letter to play, joy, and remembering who you were before the world told you who to be. Pamela reflects on the transformative power of creativity through stories like Encore, where adults rediscover themselves through performance, and offers a simple yet profound invitation for anyone feeling stuck: return to what you loved as a child. The conversation closes with a tear-filled reflection on why we incarnate at all—sparked by a dying woman’s final words: “It was so much fun.”

Guest Biography:

Pamela Bob is a multifaceted actor, singer, and award-winning screenwriter whose career spans Broadway, Off-Broadway, film, television, and podcasting. On Broadway, she appeared in the Tony-nominated Hand to God and the Tony Award–winning A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder, where she famously covered all six female roles and regularly stepped into leading performances. Off-Broadway, she starred as Clarice Starling in the cult hit Silence! The Musical—named one of Time Magazine’s ten must-see NYC shows—and earned a BroadwayWorld nomination for Best Actor for her role in Cracked Open. Pamela is also the creator and star of the acclaimed series Livin’ On a Prairie, an award-winning, festival-selected exploration of pop culture obsession inspired by Little House on the Prairie, which won Best TV Series and Best Actress at the LA International Film Fest. She currently co-hosts the Little House on the Prairie 50th Anniversary Podcast, which has surpassed one million downloads and recently sold out its first live NYC event. Pamela is a graduate of the University of Cincinnati–Conservatory of Music.

Episode Chapters:

(0:02:00) - When Talent Becomes Sacred

(0:05:00) - The Power of Music and Vibration

(0:08:00) - Pamela Sings "My Favorite Things"

(0:10:00) - Channeling Spirit on Stage

(0:12:00) - The June Carter Cash Story

(0:17:00) - Actor Who Sings vs. Musical Theater Actor

(0:19:00) - Surviving the Cincinnati Conservatory

(0:24:00) - Intuition in Landing Roles

(0:28:00) - Stage vs. Camera Performance

(0:32:00) - Creating "Living on a Prairie"

(0:38:00) - Divine Guidance and Trusting the Process

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