Episode Details

Art Bell presents investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe with a remarkable firsthand account from Glenn Pace, a man who worked at the Nevada Test Site in the early 1960s. Pace describes a card game with physicist Otto Krauss and a member of the MJ-12 staff, during which details about the secret organization were casually discussed. The MJ-12 member explained that President Truman created the group by executive order in response to UFO incidents from the 1940s, giving it autonomous authority, its own budget, and independence from both Congress and the presidency.

Pace recounts being told about craft retrievals predating Roswell, including one from the Ozarks in the early 1940s, consistent with the reported 1941 Cape Girardeau, Missouri incident. The MJ-12 member described the propulsion technology as magnetic in nature and said the power source was classified at a higher level than the atomic bomb. He also referenced a specific element used in the craft, which Pace later recognized as Element 115 when hearing Bob Lazar discuss it years later.

Linda connects this testimony to newly released MJ-12 documents, including the White Hot Intelligence Assessment from September 1947, which explicitly references the Missouri discovery and confirms the craft were deemed extraterrestrial in origin.