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Description
In Conclave (2024), Cardinal Thomas Lawrence (Ralph Fiennes) organizes a conclave to elect a new pope. Key candidates and factions vie with one another as the process plays out until finally a new pope is elected. The film was directed by Edward Berger from a script by Peter Straughan (based on the 2016 novel by Robert Harris), and features an all-star cast including Fiennes, John Lithgow, Stanley Tucci, and Isabella Rossellini. The film provides a window into the process for electing a new pope, along with the legal, historical, and political forces that have shaped it.
Timestamps:
0.00 Introduction
2:32 The origins of the conclave
5:29 Electing a new pope
8:03 The College of Cardinals
10:23 The Apostolic Constitutions
14:46 The contentious conclave in the film
21:05 Naming a new cardinal in pectore
24:51 Leo XIV, the new pope
26:58 The Roman Curia
26:38 The nuns in the film
30:05 Symbol and ritual: the smoke from the chimney
32:17 The custom of a new pope choosing a name
36:55 Struggles over different visions of the church
40:58 How accurate was the film in capturing a conclave?
42:39 How the conclave has changed
45:04 Possible future changes to the papal selection process
Further reading:
Allen, John L. Conclave: The Politics, Personalities, and Process of the Next Papal Election (2002)
Baumgartner, Frederic J., Behind Locked Doors: A History of the Papal Elections (2003)
Harris, Robert, Conclave (2016)
Povoledo, Elisabetta, “A Papal Primer That’s Fiction, but Also Rings True,” N.Y. Times (Mar. 2, 2025)
West, Morris, L., The Shoes of the Fisherman (1963)
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