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What happens when the frameworks we use to make decisions no longer reflect how human lives actually work?

In this opening episode of the You Matter series on Passion Struck, renowned social psychologist Barry Schwartz joins the show to examine how modern decision-making systems—built on metrics, optimization, and rational choice theory—can quietly erode agency, judgment, and our sense of mattering.

Schwartz is best known for The Paradox of Choice, which revealed how an abundance of options often leads to dissatisfaction rather than freedom. In his new book, Choose Wisely, co-written with philosopher Richard Schuldenfrei, he extends this critique by challenging the foundations of rational choice theory itself—the economic model that assumes good decisions can be reduced to calculation, comparison, and optimization.

While behavioral economics acknowledges human irrationality, Schwartz argues that it preserves an incomplete definition of rational decision-making. Drawing from psychology, economics, and philosophy—and engaging directly with the legacy of Thinking, Fast and Slow—he proposes a richer framework grounded in framing, judgment, and what he calls a person’s “constellation of virtues.”

In this conversation, John R. Miles and Barry Schwartz explore how treating life as a spreadsheet of isolated wins distorts meaning, why judgment has been replaced by formulas, and how mattering is experienced not through utility, but through coherence, contribution, and relational significance over time.

This episode asks a central question for modern life: What does it mean to choose wisely when meaning cannot be quantified?

If you care about decision-making, leadership, autonomy, or how people come to feel significant in systems designed to optimize them, this conversation offers a clarifying and timely perspective.

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• The Paradox of Choice
• Choose Wisely (with Richard Schuldenfrei)

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In This Episode, You Will Learn

• Why rational choice theory fails to describe how people actually make decisions
• How the paradox of choice leads to regret, dissatisfaction, and decision fatigue
• Why judgment has been replaced by rules and metrics—and what that costs leaders and organizations
• How framing shapes good decisions m