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SPECIAL GUEST

Dr Kevin Gutzman

Author and Historian 

Thomas Jefferson Revolutionary, James Madison and the Making of America, The Jeffersonians and many more.

University of Texas – 3 degrees

• What do you say about what is happening in Texas right now with the border and Governor Abbott?
• I’m not surprised he is trying to do something but I’m skeptical it will work.
• This is because it makes the Federal Government own up to their responsibility.
• I’m not sure Governor Abbott is going to be allowed to do what he is doing by the new court system.
• Has there ever been a situation in American History like this?
• I don’t think there has ever been a time where the Federal government has said “we just don’t want to keep foreigners out of this country”.
• What relationship will there be between the Federal Government and the state?
• The current Fed Gov is inviting these people into the country at this point.
• I think it assumes what isn’t the case that someone thought this could happen.
• I don’t think anyone thought this could happen.
• Why would anyone want it to happen?
• We know WHY this administration wants it to happen.
• This is a situation our Founders never contemplated so we are in uncharted territory here.
• Law Degree from University of Texas, I have another degree from University of Virginia. 
• What could have led someone to the idea that this was going to be a good idea?
• These Democrats think if we have illegal entry, it will be beneficially to their side.
• They have good reason to think that.
• Executive Immunity – Donald Trump
• I don’t think the controversial acts of Donald Trump have to do w/ the duties of his office.
• When it comes to matters like that everyone has an opinion and the results may vary.
• I don’t think there is a straight answer.
• His claim is he was trying to protect the votes of his people.
• January 6th I don’t think that will fall under Executive Immunity, whether it was illegal or not, there was no other president in history that has held a rally near the Capitol and telling the people to address their grievances to their Congressmen and women.
• Thomas Jefferson fathered children w/ his slave – 
• John Hartwell Cocke – 
• He didn’t have any incentive to slander Thomas Jefferson back then.
• Cocke did visit Jefferson at Monticello several times.
• The white relatives of Thomas Jefferson say it was one of the Carr brothers which were cousins.
• My feeling is that we haven’t had enough impeachments in our history.