Episode Details

In this engaging episode of the HVAC School podcast, host Bryan Orr sits down with Leo and Paul Sharkey, a father-son duo of mechanical engineers who made the leap into the HVAC business. Leo and Paul share their remarkable journey of purchasing an HVAC company in September 2020 and quadrupling its revenue within five years. Their engineering backgrounds bring a refreshing, data-driven perspective to an industry that often relies on rules of thumb and outdated practices.

The Sharkeys operate in the challenging Northeast market, where homes can date back to the 1600s and 1700s. They discuss the eye-opening discovery that traditional HVAC sizing methods—like the simplistic "one ton per 400 square feet" rule—fail dramatically in older housing stock. Their commitment to running thousands of Manual J calculations has transformed their approach, often resulting in smaller, more efficient systems than competitors propose. The conversation dives deep into the unique challenges of working with centuries-old New England homes, including extreme infiltration rates, non-linear heat loss curves during harsh winters, and the complications of mixing modern additions with ancient construction.

Beyond sizing, Leo and Paul tackle the practical realities of heat pump installations in cold climates. They explain why turndown ratio is critical, how they handle homes with heat loads that triple their cooling loads, and when backup heating systems are truly necessary. Their consultative approach rejects the "one-size-fits-all" mentality that has flooded the market with incentive-chasing installations. They candidly discuss the problems created by Massachusetts' generous rebate programs, which have attracted fly-by-night operators who prioritize rebate qualifications over proper design and long-term performance.

The episode also explores the balance between ductless and ducted systems, revealing when each approach makes economic and technical sense. The Sharkeys share fascinating case studies, from a 1748 house with the equivalent of a full-size door's worth of air leakage to underground concrete dome homes requiring specialized dehumidification. Their willingness to take on complex projects that other contractors avoid demonstrates how engineering thinking, combined with trade expertise, can solve challenging HVAC problems. This conversation is essential listening for anyone serious about understanding cold climate HVAC design, building science principles, and what it takes to deliver quality comfort solutions in real-world conditions.

Topics Covered

• Engineering background transition to HVAC - How mechanical engineering experience in semiconductors and manufacturing informed their HVAC business approach
• Manual J calculations and proper sizing - Running 7,000-9,000 Manual J calculations over five years and why they typically specify smaller systems than competitors
• Old New England housing challenges - Working with homes from the 1600s-1700s, extreme infiltration rates, and heat loss characteristics of ancient construction
• Heat load vs. cooling load imbalances - Managing homes where heat loads can be triple the cooling loads and how this affects system design

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