Episode Details

Trent and Caitlin catch up with Greg Sargent from The New Republic about his recent piece exploring the family history and ideology of Stephen Miller. How did the product of Russian Jewish refugees come to see today's refugees as incapable of integration in American society? What are the white nationalist positions on who is a real American, and how does Miller navigate his position in relation to those ideologies? Why do these unlovable jerks insist on the myth that community and empathy are suicidal?

Resources:

The New Republic: https://newrepublic.com

The Daily Blast Podcast: https://newrepublic.com/podcasts

Greg's piece on Miller: https://newrepublic.com/article/204191/stephen-miller-maga-terror-state-dark-plot

Stephen Miller on Somali immigrants: https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/11/politics/stephen-miller-trump-immigration-law-somalia

Facts about Somali community in MN: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/5-things-to-know-about-the-somali-community-in-minnesota-after-trumps-attacks

Hatemonger: https://bookshop.org/a/115699/9780062986726

When The Clock Broke: https://bookshop.org/a/115699/9781250390417

Furious Minds: https://bookshop.org/a/115699/9780691255262

DHS Twitter Account: https://archive.ph/Vg8c7

Stephen Miller's cousin: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stephen-miller-cousin-alisa-kasmer/