Episode Details

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Joanna Lilley about supporting young adults who are struggling in college and navigating transitional moments in early adulthood. Joanna, based in Traverse City, Michigan, shares her experience as a therapeutic consultant working with students who step away from college, as well as the challenges faced by their parents. Joanna offers actionable insights for parents navigating this stage, highlights the developmental shifts in emerging adulthood, and discusses her journey from higher education to entrepreneurship.

About Joanna Lilley: Since 2016, Lilley Consulting has been helping young adults (18+) find mental health, substance use, and wellness resources.  Joanna dedicates herself to working solely with emerging adults who unravel in college or aren’t thriving in adulthood. She also hosts the “Success is Subjective” podcast, which can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio.

Main Topics Covered:

• The realities and pressures facing college students—including mental health, substance use, and identity formation.
• Why stepping away from college isn't a failure, and how families can reframe this experience for growth.
• The impact of technology and social media on young adult connection, comparison, and wellbeing.
• How parents can support their young adults with boundaries, communication, and community—especially when navigating house rules and independence.
• Joanna’s story: The pivotal moment when a student asked for direct help and how it led her to launch her consulting practice.
• Why stigma, secrecy, and “highlight reel” culture make it difficult for families to seek support when young adults struggle.
• The business side of helping families: Joanna’s role as a therapeutic consultant, speaking to both parents and young adults as distinct clients.
• The importance of community for parents of young adults—resources, vulnerability, and how to find safe spaces.

Quote from the Episode: “It really begins with a reflection. Last year, how did things go? What are the areas that I want to work on? ... It starts with the reflection first and foremost to get that baseline and then identify kind of the visioning for change for the future.”— Joanna Lilley

Timestamps: [00:00:06] Amy greets Joanna Lilley, who calls Traverse City, Michigan home. [00:01:19] Joanna discusses her approach to fresh starts rooted in self-reflection. [00:02:39] Joanna explains her former role as a college success coach and involvement in a suspension deferral program for students with substance issues. [00:04:37] Joanna describes her non-linear path into higher ed and passion for supporting young adults. [00:09:58] Joanna defines her current practice: helping “stepping away” college students—and why college isn’t for everyone. [00:12:21] The perfect storm facing today’s young adults: autonomy, connection, and the impact of tech and social media. [00:19:35] Tips for parents: shifting to a “parenting young adults” mindset, setting collaborative house rules. [00:23:50] The vulnerability and isolation of parents whose children struggle; finding supportive communities. [00:25:29] Joanna’s “lightning bolt” moment—helping a student who had been suspended and how institutional limitations inspired her business model. [00:31:01] Joanna navigates the intersection of service and entrepreneurship, helping parents and young adults. [00:39:20] Joanna’s official business description, what therapeutic consulting looks like, and how to get in touch. [00:41:26] Fun Questions: Joanna shares her passion for metalsmithing and a joyful home improvement. [00:44:29] Closing thanks and episode wrap-up.

Connect with the guest: https://lilleyconsulting.com/ 

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