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The list continues, and today we’re stopping at the man who essentially willed the French Resistance into existence. In this episode, we break down the name Charles de Gaulle—a figure so central to the 20th century that Billy Joel couldn't possibly leave him out of the first verse.

We’re diving into the history behind the lyric, starting with de Gaulle’s refusal to surrender to the Nazis and his complicated relationship with the "Big Three" (Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill), who often found him more of a headache than a hero. We’ll discuss:

• Why he’s in this specific spot in the song: Mapping his 1940s exile to his 1950s political comeback.
• The "Difficult" Ally: Why FDR famously didn't trust him, and how de Gaulle used that friction to assert French sovereignty.
• The Legacy: How the man in the lyric eventually became the architect of modern France.

Whether you're a history buff or just trying to finally memorize all the words to the song, join us as we explain why the General earned his permanent spot in the fire.

In the context of the song's chronology, de Gaulle is positioned right after Lebanon (which gained independence from French mandate in 1943) and before California Baseball (referring to the Dodgers and Giants moving West in 1958). This highlights de Gaulle's long-term relevance—he was a major player when the song starts and was still a titan when the "fire" reached the late 50s.

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About History Ignited:
History Ignited is the award-winning kids and family history podcast inspired by Billy Joel’s We Didn’t Start the Fire. Each short episode explores the real stories behind the people, events, inventions, and cultural moments that shaped the world from the 1950s through the 1980s. Winner of the 2025 Webby People’s Voice Award for Best Kids & Family Podcast.