Episode Details

Guest: Justin "Hutch" Hutchens, Host of Cyber Cognition Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/hutch

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

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Episode Notes

In this episode of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, Sean Martin, the host, engages in a riveting conversation with Justin Hutchins, also known as Hutch. Hutch, a seasoned R&D professional, is the co-host of the Cyber Cognition podcast and the author of The Language of Deception, Weaponizing Next Generation AI.

The conversation orbits around the objective of Hutch's book, which is to dispel the fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) that often clouds the understanding of AI, and to illuminate the real and emerging risks that we face in our rapidly evolving technological landscape. Hutch also shares his extensive experience in creating a proof of concept for adaptive command and control malware driven by ChatGPT, demonstrating the potential dangers of AI-powered malware attacks.

The discussion extends to the increasing prevalence of bots in our daily online interactions and the need for individuals to be mindful of this when interacting online. Hutch emphasizes the importance of responsible innovation and provides guidance on how organizations and individuals can prepare for these new and emerging threats.

The conversation is not just a deep dive into the risks and threats of AI, but also a call to action for responsible and ethical use of technology. It's an essential listen for anyone interested in the intersection of AI and cybersecurity, offering invaluable insights into the current state and future trajectory of these intertwined fields.

About The Book: In The Language of Deception: Weaponizing Next Generation AI, artificial intelligence and cybersecurity veteran Justin Hutchens delivers an incisive and penetrating look at how contemporary and future AI can and will be weaponized for malicious and adversarial purposes. In the book, you will explore multiple foundational concepts to include the history of social engineering and social robotics, the psychology of deception, considerations of machine sentience and consciousness, and the history of how technology has been weaponized in the past. From these foundations, the author examines topics related to the emerging risks of advanced AI technologies, to include:

• The use of Large Language Models (LLMs) for social manipulation, disinformation, psychological operations, deception and fraud
• The implementation of LLMs to construct fully autonomous social engineering systems for targeted attacks or for mass manipulation at scale
• The technical use of LLMs and the underlying transformer architecture for use in technical weapons systems to include advanced next-generation malware, physical robotics, and even autonomous munition systems
• Speculative future risks such as the alignment problem, disembodiment at