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We sit down with Shelly Ayers who is a high school counselor, Appalachian writer, and “true mountain child” from Stinking Creek, Tennessee (yes, it’s real). Shelly talks about the deep pull of Appalachia: the clan-like ties to land and kin, the pressure to protect your people, and what it means to tell your truth.

Together, we unpack growing up Pentecostal and all the shouting, speaking in tongues, fear of hell, and lingering “spiritual warfare” wiring that can take years to unlearn. Shelly shares how queerness and deconstruction were inseparable for her: the early prayers not to be gay, the church roles she slowly stepped away from, the years of healing work, and the hard-earned peace of building a life rooted in love instead of fear. We also talk about code-switching accents, chosen family, staying vs. leaving the mountains, and how community can be found anywhere—church pews, bar regulars, tattoo shops, and the people who become home.

If you've ever loved your roots and had to leave to survive...this one's for you.