Episode Details

In this episode of The Backstep Boys, hosts Ron Kanterman and Tom Aurnhammer explore the nuances of fire service culture, leadership challenges, and the legacy that shapes today’s firefighters. From Aurnhammer's long-awaited trip to a West Point football game, rich with history and tradition, to profound discussions on organizational culture inspired by pioneers like Edgar Schein and Dr. Kim Allen, the conversation unpacks the ways culture drives behavior, impacts safety, and defines leadership effectiveness. This episode offers a thought-provoking look at what it truly means to lead and belong in the fire service today.

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