History sounds different when you hear it from people who can name the teachers, show the paperwork, and walk you through the venues where outcomes actually change. We sit down with Dr. Alim El Bey and Chief Jelani Bey to break open Moorish identity, Washita lineage, and the legal frameworks that so often get flattened into memes or headlines. No shortcuts here—just credentials, case experience, and a willingness to trace names, treaties, and terms back to the records that anchor them.
We start by challenging the “pseudo” tag with decades of study in sociology, history, legal studies, metaphysics, and initiatory work. Then we map the early 2000s organizing that shaped the movement’s regional structure, connecting the Moorish Science Temple of America and Washita matriarchal lines. Cherokee and Ani Yunwiya ties enter through surnames and historical rolls, not costume or stereotype, pushing us to look past commercial images of Native identity. This is where language matters: Black, Negro, Indian, indigenous, Moor—each carries etymology, legal weight, and consequences for standing and recognition.
The legal section is a masterclass on venue and process. Municipal courts aren’t built to hear constitutional arguments, and many high-profile losses trace back to that mismatch. The conversation digs into contracts, estate trusts, administrative versus common law, and how dismissals, seals, and erasures operate as quiet wins that rarely hit the internet. Sovereignty is reframed away from “sovereign citizen” into nationality, treaty history, and jurisdiction—invoking the Treaty of Peace and Friendship and the influence of indigenous confederacies on constitutional design.
We also explore Washita land claims, Spanish and French grants, and the contested narrative of the Louisiana Purchase, emphasizing Creole lineages and Haitian French ties. Finally, we open the door to a future deep dive on Black nobility across Europe—Habsburgs, Stewarts, and the Moorish presence etched into statues, pharmacies, and surnames. If you care about identity, land, and law—and how they collide in real courtrooms and communities—this conversation offers a demanding, detailed path forward.
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