Episode Details

Senator Ron Johnson (R–WI) joins Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags to explain why health insurance costs keep rising — even after years of promises that Obamacare would make care cheaper and more accessible.

Johnson breaks down how government subsidies distorted the insurance market, why premiums and deductibles exploded, and how insurance companies quietly benefited while families paid more. He explains why many policies exist only “on paper,” how incentives were flipped upside down, and what real reform would actually look like.

This is a clear, no-nonsense conversation about how the system works, who it serves, and why Americans continue to lose — regardless of what politicians promised.

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