Episode Details

In season three’s sixth episode, singer-songwriters Katie Phillips and Karen Joy Brown connect with Cassidy Frost, self-declared writer of sad songs with sugary pop hooks who NPR’s Robin Hilton once called “gloriously gritty.” They share their strange and surprisingly early entry into the music industry and how their songwriting and relationship to music has evolved over time. Stay for the whole delightful conversation on emotional and literal sobriety, continual music growth, and the joy of a supportive songwriting community.

Features her original song, Nobody’s Invited to My Birthday in relation to the topic.

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* 23:06- Cassidy’s song, Nobody’s Invited to My Birthday

Episode Resources:

* Cassidy new release, Like I Did Before, on Bandcamp

* Cassidy’s website

* Songs for Creative Revolution, December 14th, 2025 at Sebastopol Center for the Arts

* Karen Joy Brown | Apple Music | Spotify | Instagram

* Katie Phillips | Bandcamp | Instagram

* The Bootleg Honeys | Bandcamp

* JOURNAL PROMPT: Write about something painful in your life as plainly as you can and don’t silverline it, fix it, shine it up. Be in the moment with the suck.

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