Episode Details

The news of AI voice cloning by Michael Caine and Matthew McConaughey met with a mixture of weighing legacy, ownership rights, estates, and the risk of deepfake fraud using celebrities and even podcasters. Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, Dave Ginsburg, Mark Fuccio, Web Bixby, and Jim Rea debate legal guardrails, fair use, and how cheap tools empower scams. Later, the discussion shifts to reports that London thieves prefer stealing iPhones over Android devices and how social engineering can defeat Apple's security measures.

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Chapters:

[0:00] Sponsor mention and pivot to AI voice cloning [0:33] Michael Caine and Matthew McConaughey sign on for AI voice clones [1:59] Creepiness factor and everyday abuse of cloned voices [2:06] Spam callers, family impersonation, and scam risks [3:27] Comparing licensed AI voices to authors licensing their style [4:25] Ownership rights, estates, and posthumous revenue streams [5:43] Al Roker deepfake ad and unauthorized commercial use [8:32] Guardrails to protect voices from misuse [10:47] Illegality vs. cheap, hard-to-police AI impersonation [12:16] Public figures, fair use, and tougher likeness rules [14:51] London phone thieves returning Androids, keeping iPhones [16:00] Resale value, parts markets, and shipped-overseas phones [18:15] Social engineering tactics to get users to remove iCloud locks [18:28] Panel wrap-up, plugs, and where to find each participant [28:00] Closing credits, support options, and contact info

Links:

Michael Caine and Matthew McConaughey are getting AI voice clones with ElevenLabs https://apnews.com/article/ai-voice-clones-michael-caine-matthew-mcconaughey-elevenlabs-a906f912c4500bfea35b53f4ad07e846

Al Roker Deepfake Scam https://www.today.com/news/al-roker-deepfake-scam-rcna198136

Roblox is requiring 9yo kids to submit a video selfie for age verification https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/18/roblox-is-requiring-9yo-kids-to-submit-a-video-selfie-for-age-verification/

WhatsApp security flaw exposed 3.5B phone numbers – including yours https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/18/whatsapp-security-flaw-exposed-3-5b-phone-numbers-including-yours/

London thieves gave stolen phones back when they weren't iPhones https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/18/london-thieves-gave-stolen-phones-back-when-they-werent-iphones/

Guests:

Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, but prefers Bluesky.

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision P