Episode Details

In this two-part interview, Shelby Daly sits down with Payton McNabb, a former multi-sport student-athlete who became a national advocate for athlete safety and women’s rights after suffering a life-altering concussion during a high school volleyball game. Together, they discuss the evolving landscape of competitive sports, the role of athletic trainers in protecting athletes, and the growing debate around fairness, safety, and equity in women’s athletics.

In the second part, Shelby is joined by Dr. Simi to explore how athletic trainers and athletic departments can thoughtfully navigate these complex and often polarizing situations. They discuss strategies for fostering open, respectful conversations around inclusion and identity in sport, creating spaces that encourage understanding and dialogue rather than division or “cancel culture.” Inclusion can still mean excluding certain parties.

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