Podcast Episode Details

Part 1 of 2: 🎙️ "Relationship Fitness: The Hidden Discipline Behind Business, Love, and Leadership"

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🎙️ "Relationship Fitness: The Hidden Discipline Behind Business, Love, and Leadership"

What if the universal currency of business isn't money … but relationships?

Description:

He's an engineer turned business architect turned relational revolutionary.

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For decades, William "Wagz" Wagner helped organizations and leaders engineer change. But it wasn't until he began confronting the patterns in his own history, forty years of marriage, ten grandchildren, and a lifetime of corporate transformation, that he realized: the same principles that build great companies are the ones that build great relationships.

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In this first part of their delicious conversation, Dov Baron and Wagz unpack how emotional logic, unmet expectations, and assumed agreements quietly erode trust in families, teams, and organizations.

. They dismantle the myth that relationships "work out," and replace it with a measurable, trainable model for what Wagz calls "Relationship Fitness."

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I've watched countless leaders hide behind their spreadsheets until their marriages collapse. Because the truth is, every business problem is a relationship problem in disguise.

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Whether you're leading a company or trying to save a marriage, this episode will redefine how you see communication, alignment, and commitment, and why they're the true currencies of leadership.

🔥 In This Episode

• Why most leaders fail at relationships (business and personal) for the same reasons

• How to align expectations so you stop breeding resentment

• The power of clarity and commitment in every relationship you lead

• How AI and technology are eroding emotional literacy—and what you can do about it

• Why "assumptions kill connection" and the three disciplines that build relational fitness

• What leaders can learn from marriage about communication and trust

👊 About William "Wagz" Wagner

Engineer, business architect, and author of Relationship Fitness, Wagz has spent over 30 years helping organizations and leaders move from surviving change to mastering connection. He teaches that relationships aren't built on luck but on discipline, clarity, and courage—the same principles that scale empires and heal families.

💥 Listen If You've Ever

• Felt like your success outgrew your relationship skills

• Wondered why you can manage a company but struggle to connect at home

• Wanted to lead without losing your humanity

• Seen patterns you swore you wouldn't repeat

• Known that you're strong but crave real connection

🔗 Connect with "Wagz"

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