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Debating "Antisemitism" with Josh Mitteldorf
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Check out Josh Mitteldorf’s Unauthorized Science Substack.
Is “antisemitism” a thing? Both sides seem to think so. Netanyahu, the ADL, and the rest of Organized Jewry won’t shut up about it. Meanwhile, more and more people are expressing negative views of Jews—sometimes reasonably and intelligently, other times not so much. That makes Organized Jewry (OJ, a.k.a. “The Juice”) work even harder to censor anyone who doesn’t like the mass slaughter of tens of thousands of women and children in Gaza…which in turn makes people hate OJ even more. And all that hate spells big bucks for the ADL.
Is there a way out of this mess? Today’s guest Josh Mitteldorf, like other reasonable people, argues that we should distinguish sharply between Jews and Zionism, and attack the latter while sparing the former. Josh obviously has a point, as more and more Jews rise up and denounce Zionism and/or genocide. A recent Washington Post poll that set off alarm bells in Israel showed that 61% of American Jews believe Israel is committing war crimes, and 40% say it is committing genocide. Then again, as the Times of Israel remarked, “94% of respondents accuse Hamas of committing war crimes against Israelis.” In other words, the American Jewish community as a whole apparently believes that the side that is committing tens of thousands of times more war crimes than its enemies is less blameworthy. That belief system is criminally insane. (And regarding what constitutes a war crime: Under international law, occupied peoples have the right to use violence to resist occupation, and settlers may be targeted whether or not they are in uniform.)
But if the American Jewish community (like the non-Jewish one that gets its information from Jewish-dominated media) is criminally insane, what does that make the Israelis? The overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews supports the genocide. And they are still running around proclaiming themselves “the Jewish state.” And that claim has not been decisively rejected by world Jewry. On the contrary, it is still widely accepted.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say that Organized Jewry (OJ) i.e. the Jewish nation is on the whole a highly problematic group and a force for evil in the world. It’s equally reasonable to say the same thing about the American nation. These claims can be debated. But stigmatizing them is unacceptable. The notion that there are limits on how harshly we may criticize the world’s most-powerful-per-capita ethnic group, or the world’s most powerful nation—and that anyone who does so will be insulted as “antisemitic” or “anti-American”—is an abomination.
I think the whole notions of antisemitism and anti-Americanism are pernicious myths. I think the problem is not that there is too much harsh criticism of the Jewish and American nations, but too little. If people are fed up with these two groups, it is for very good reason. Unfortunately, both groups dominate big media and have succeeded in brainwashing the world into putting up with their crimes. That needs to end, and soon.
Josh Mitteldorf has a different perspective. But one thing we agree on is that individuals can and should rise up against the evils committed by their nation, and that there are plenty of heroic Jews and Ame