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Courage, Control, and Psychological Safety on Submarines and in Life with Commander William C. Spears

Courage, Control, and Psychological Safety on Submarines and in Life with Commander William C. Spears

Published 3 months, 2 weeks ago
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On Mind Over Masculinity, host Avik speaks with Commander William C. Spears—submarine warfare officer, former Executive Officer of a ballistic-missile submarine, and Pentagon leader—about Stoicism as a Warrior Philosophy. We unpack courage versus surrender, how to stay steady under stress, building psychological safety in high-performance teams, and why journaling clarifies thinking. Spears explains Epictetus’ role ethics, coherence between our roles (parent, professional, citizen), and the discipline of acting “cool as a cucumber” in the moment—and processing emotions appropriately later. This is a direct playbook for making ethical decisions when no one’s watching, at sea or at work.

Note: As stated in the episode, Commander Spears speaks solely in his personal capacity. His views do not represent the U.S. Government or the U.S. Navy.

About the guest  :

Commander William C. Spears is a U.S. Navy submarine warfare officer and leadership writer. His book, Stoicism as a Warrior Philosophy, translates ancient Stoic ethics for modern warfighters and leaders, focusing on prudence, courage, justice, and moderation under real-world pressure.

Key takeaways:

  • Courage = prudence in what must be endured. Recklessness isn’t courage; wise endurance is.

  • Surrender to reality, not responsibility. Control judgments and actions; accept what’s outside your control.

  • Psychological safety increases performance. Professional, decent day-to-day interactions reduce cognitive load under stress.

  • “Act now, feel later (appropriately).” In critical moments (a watch, a high-stakes meeting), stay composed; process emotions at the right time and place.

  • Coherence across roles. Be a good human first; other roles (officer, parent, leader) should align with that higher role.

  • Discipline prevents spiral. On deployment (or in any constraint), focus on the job at hand to avoid rumination and loss of control.

  • Standards and kindness aren’t opposites. Professional consistency plus human decency builds trust and team power; hardness is situational, never habitual.

  • Journaling is strategic hygiene. Writing exposes fuzzy “feelings-as-thoughts,” sharpens judgment, and accelerates learning.

  • Daily debrief works. Ask: What was in my control? What did I choose? What did I learn? Who did I become?

  • Leaders model language. Words matter; avoid cruelty, signal dignity, and enforce safety non-negotiables.


How to connect with the guest  

  • Website: https://williamcspears.com/ 

  • LinkedIn

  • Book: Stoicism as a Warrior Philosophy (available on major retailers)

  • Commander Spears welcomes thoughtful reader messages via his site.


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